i am american. i was born on a naval base in a foreign country, but i am still american. both my parents are american, and the land on which i was born was (still is) considered american soil (or so my mother told me ;)
my children are american and japanese. for the time being. they don't even know what that means, but that is what they are. i don't know what the future holds for them, whether they will be american, or japanese, or both, but when i read articles like this, i start to seethe. W.T.H. i know that people really get worked up over politics (i am not one of those people), but this is really desperate. and SILLY. you don't want a certain person as the leader of your country. fine. do something about it (like vote, right?). accept that the majority won, and it wasn't what you wanted. go out there and get your voice heard, remind people to vote, run for office yourself, but DON'T embarrass yourself trying to prove something that isn't true. president obama is american, whether you like it or not. move on, find something constructive to do to reach the outcome you want!
ahem.
this is not the first i've heard of 'birthers', but i am finding it so difficult to believe that people out there are still trying to deny obama is the president just because his mother married a foreigner and had a child with him. oh the horror.
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Why doesn't the American government just show everyone the birth certificate then to silence all this? It would be so easy to do. I don't care one way or the other what his blood is or if he came from outer space but it makes you wonder why they wouldn't just print the birth certificate if so many people are up in arms about it.
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actually, his campaign offered his birth certificate online, but people just claimed it was fake. two officials (who would know!) in hawaii have officially said it's real and that president obama was born in hawaii.
and honestly, a birth certificate is an important document and not something i would want every tom, dick and harry to get a hold of.
Actually, overseas military bases (and embassies, for the matter) are not considered American soil. Quoting the Foreign Affairs Manual from the U.S. State Department:
"Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth."
In other words, the reason you're American is because your parents are American, not because of jus soli (born on U.S. soil). As a counter example, if a foreign visitor to a U.S. military base happens to have a child inside the base, the child does not automatically get U.S. citizenship due to the fact that it's "in America."
Most constitutional scholars interpret Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution as including citizens born outside the United States to parents who are U.S. citizens under the “natural born citizen” requirement of the Constitution.
So don't worry, you too can be president.
As for birthers? Most of them are just racists, using the birth certificate "issue" as a ruse.
thank you mr. inoue, that is very interesting! and a good read, good to know. i have always considered myself an american because both of my parents are american, born and raised. being born on a military base was only secondary, and now i know for sure the 'rules'.
and yes, the whole birther thing smacks of racism, though doing some research for my little post brought up articles about john mccain, who was born in the panama canal territory. such an innocent line (about being a natural born american, which was written to keep out foreign meddling in the presidency--as i remember middle school lessons!) making so much trouble!!
Did you also know that Obama worked for BIC which has connections for the CIA? I read an article in a magazine about it yesterday. It was interesting to say the least, and he left those details out of his two autobiographies. His mother Ann Dunham worked also for two agencies notorious for providing CIA cover.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=3255 presents an interesting take on it.
I'm not against Obama but I'm not American and I'm not for him either. I think as a citizen you want to think that the people that govern the country are straight and clean, I don't believe any government in the world today is clean, I think they are all corrupt. The sad part is that it is well known that there is a shadow government in play in the USA, the public government that we see are just puppets on strings.
Kelly, the author of that birther conspiracy theory is none other than Stephen Baldwin — a person who is millions of dollars in debt (and will say or do anything to get media exposure), and doesn't believe in evolution, only creationism. He has a long, long track record of saying and writing outrageous things for the sake of getting B parts in B-class television shows.
Please check the credibility of the source before citing such drivel.
May I suggest you read the following article: "four reasons why people believe in conspiracy theories" and do some research into what 9/11 Truthers, moon landing deniers, UFO and Area 57 believers, and yes, Birthers, all have in common.
Eido Inoue: I don't care who he is, there are alot more people around who say the same thing as he does, in fact, I first found out about it in uncensored magazine a couple of days ago. It's not drivel just because you say it is. I find that it's people like you who suppress our world, people like you who don't like free thinkers. Thank god I live in Australia where we haven't succumbed to mind control just yet.
And just to top it off, I am a multiple contactee with aliens, I see ufo's all the time, I also have lots of spiritual experiences. As someone who experiences these things all the time, I find it fascinating that people who haven't, completely write it off like it's not there. It's not a conspiracy, nor is it a theory, it's a true experience. Millions of people around the world can't be hallucinating.
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